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Going Nuts for Ivy

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 6:37 pm
by bjreroberts
Has anyone else experienced their cattle going mad for ivy?

Put them all in a new field a fortnight ago with plenty of grass and they have gone straight for a hedgerow and stripped all the ivy. After a week the landlord opened the gate to an adjacent paddock and they have broken a rail, pushed over a post and stuck their heads in-between the stock net and barbed wire just to get to the ivy from the other side.

It looks like I am going to have to use electric fencing or some heras fence panels to stop them or I'm going to be spending a lot of time on fence repairs.

Re: Going Nuts for Ivy

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 8:54 pm
by Saffy
I think there is something they are lacking if they are that keen on it and I cannot remember what, unless someone says on here perhaps it is worth asking your vet?

Stephanie

Re: Going Nuts for Ivy

Posted: Tue Nov 10, 2015 9:45 pm
by Duncan MacIntyre
My old boss used to give it to cows which were not eating as tonic - opened their mouths and stuffed it in, and they would start chewing immediately.

It is often thought of as poisonous, but I don't think there is much evidence. But I did once lose a heifer because she went to eat ivy off a tree branch which had fallen into the field. Unfortunately the branch was off a yew tree. One heifer dead, another six Dexters all round eating the ivy but ok. It could have been worse. I don't think yew trees often lose branches, but this one was weighed down with the ivy.

Duncan

Re: Going Nuts for Ivy

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 12:06 am
by Rob R
Our churchyard had a tree, a tomb & part of the wall covered in Ivy and the cattle & sheep stripped every single leaf they could possibly reach!

This last week or so the cattle have been knocking back the seaweed supplement, too.

Re: Going Nuts for Ivy

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 11:42 am
by Saffy
Well - I suppose there is lots of grass for time of year and there can't be much in it in the way of nutrients. Perhaps if we want to keep them out on this lush grass in November we all need to think about giving a supplement? It isn't usually lush at this time of year.... Mine do get suckler rolls which have a fair bit of minerals.

Re: Going Nuts for Ivy

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 6:25 pm
by moomin
I give ivy if animals have been ill or off food. It is also good after a bad calving and for retained afterbirth to help them cleanse. Been using it for years!

Re: Going Nuts for Ivy

Posted: Wed Nov 11, 2015 7:40 pm
by Saffy
http://www.jamesravilious.com/photos/39.jpg

If you click the link above it shows a photograph taken in the 70s by James Ravilious. Of a farmer taking ivy to his sheep.

Stephanie

Re: Going Nuts for Ivy

Posted: Thu Nov 12, 2015 10:33 am
by Louisa Gidney
It's the ivy berries that are poisonous, not the leaves. As the previous photo shows, it was used as winter fodder, along with holly and, later, gorse. Particularly when only small numbers of stock were kept. A long time ago an archaeology post grad did some research on the cut off point where such small scale fodder gathering was no longer an effective strategy. High concentrations of ivy pollen on Mesolithic sites were suggested, when I was a student, as evidence that hunter-gatherers may have been using dumps of ivy to entice deer into locations where they could be killed easily.

Re: Going Nuts for Ivy

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 12:36 am
by Rob R
Louisa Gidney wrote:A long time ago an archaeology post grad did some research on the cut off point where such small scale fodder gathering was no longer an effective strategy. High concentrations of ivy pollen on Mesolithic sites were suggested, when I was a student, as evidence that hunter-gatherers may have been using dumps of ivy to entice deer into locations where they could be killed easily.
Little nuggets of information such as this makes me glad we have this forum!

Re: Going Nuts for Ivy

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 8:55 am
by Saffy
....You going deer hunting Rob? :)

Stephanie

Re: Going Nuts for Ivy

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 10:46 am
by Rob R
Saffy wrote:....You going deer hunting Rob? :)

Stephanie
Yes. I distrubed three of them the other day when it was foggy - I don't know who was more surprised, me or them, but if I went dressed in ivy I might get a better picture. :)

Re: Going Nuts for Ivy

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2015 11:23 am
by Saffy
If you do that Rob...the deer will take a pic of you!!! :)

Stephanie